*smi|es*

"God gave me a vision...

that i'll raise up a generation of young people that'll take Asia by storm!"

-Rev Kong Hee

And when i heard that for the 100th time, God spoke in a still small voice. Thats not only a prophesy for him, it's also prophesy for you.

Raymond... Look at the second part of it; a generation of young people that'll take Asia by storm! You are that generation. You are going 2 make a difference, you are going 2 change the world!

Pastor said "after the fire... once you've been thru the fire... once God purifies you... Greater works you'll do. The ppl we'll speak to.. The ppl that we are going 2 heal, will put Benny Hinn to shame."

Father thats my cry. Thats my heart.. GOD use me as only u can.. Deep calling unto the deep, Spirit calling unto the Spirit.. Rivers of living water flow.. Let there be a grace, a glory, an aroma, favor, a TOUCH. I'm ready God... I am.

Woot!

QUOTE(Feiticeira @ Jan 22 2005, 12:32 AM)
To call this argument absurd would be rather like saying The Beatles sold a few records.

Your opening argument against Christianity is a subjective, rhetorical question? You're asking about the what a God may or may not be able to do whilst simultaneously debating his existence? You're asking for the answer to a question about a being who must exist in order for your question to be answered?

Look up irony, son. You're asking a paradoxal question about a paradoxal situation. Hilarious.

Don't ask these ridiculous questions when you dubunk Christianity. Point out the painfully simple illogical reasoning behind it.

The Bible states that the world is somewhere between five and ten thousand years old.

Science shows, with evidence, that it is BILLIONS of years old.

The Bible makes no reference to dinosaurs, who predated its existence by a mere 100 million years. Why? Because dinosaurs were unheard of at the time.

According to Gensis, the two original people on Earth are the sole propogaters of humanity. Human Beings are therefore the largest and longest case of incest in history. Everyone would be exceptionally disfigured and mentally retarded.

EDIT: To answer your question: If God is real and omnipotent, he would simply move the ground from underneath such a rock. Or raise the ground beneath.


First of all, science cannot possibly show that the Earth is billions of years old. Science is the process by which objective persons observe a series of phenomena and make a statistical judgement by which others may 1) prove the judgement true or false, or 2) use it to make valuable predictions. For example, it is science that predicts that the Earth will rotate every 23-and-some-odd hours. Science always deals with the observable and testable, and assumptions of science are always repeatable. Having been completed prior to the emergenece of human intelligence, our creation is unrepeatable, and ergo not able to be scientifically proven or disproven.

People tell me that Christianity is irrational because I was not there to observe God "creating" anything, to which I say that, by that standard, all people are irrational in believing anything about our origins because no one was there to observe them. Yes, Christians have faith, but so do evolutionists and Christian-evolutionists. Everyone does. It seems to me that only Christians will admit it.

Secondly, the Bible makes numerous references to what you call "dinosaurs," which do, of course, conflict with your evolutionary theory. These references can be found in Job, Psalms, and Isaiah. But also note that the Bible was not an animal-record-keeping book. The Bible never mentions the ostrich. It never mentions the salamander. If a book fails to mention an animal, does it make it less valid? Of course not. Your line of reasoning excludes reasoning.

Thirdly, the Bible never says that Adam and Eve were the sole propogators of the human race. Also, incest does not always lead to disfigurement. Please note that the evolutionary theory claims we all evolved from a single cell (which is asexual, of course). However, eventually, two asexual organisms must have evolved by some random accident into a male and female to form a new species. Would that not be a case of incest? By the evolutionary line of reasoning, we're all products of incest. Get used to it.

The question of whether God can or cannot do such a thing is irrelevant, considering that God would not do such a thing. The question is not whether it is possible, but whether it is rational. God will not do something irrational, and therefore will not make a rock so large that he cannot lift it.

Christianity is an easy way to deal with the fact that we will all die, and I dislike this very much.

Why, aren't you compassionate?

, it is possible that we were created by supreme beings, or by science and chance alone.

I wonder how you think we were created by science.

Although I would like to point out like a previous poster said, the forming of DNA, cells, and the earth seems to point to some intervention.

Seems to?

This I believe cannot be real.

Rock-solid evidence, right there. And here I thought only Christians subscribed to "blind faith"? :P

But God should be all merciful.

Now you're trying to create your own god, and you're not debating whether the Christian God exists or not. You're telling us what God should be doing, instead of telling us why or why not he does or does not exist.

Would this not be better justice?

Everyone has a chance, a choice, to go to Heaven or Hell. I know what you're choosing, and despite everything you've said about God, he's willing to forgive you. That's pretty merciful. You must choose, however, whether or not you want him to forgive you.

would not shackle the repenting sinners for all of eternity and setence them to torture.

And he doesn't. Once a soul is in Hell, however, that soul has made the chocie to remain in there. That's why you must choose now instead of later.

Has anyone heard of the car evolution story...

Well, just in case you're wondering: years ago, scientists concluded that the possibility of a single cell forming from inanimate matter to a living organism had the same chance of a tornado traveling through any American junkyard and creating a running 747 jet with a full tank and completed runway, with the jet facing in the correct position and with all electronics running at full power.

Now, scientists believe the latter has a higher chance of occuring than the former.

Woooohooooooo~!~!~! More-->(click)

To You=)

JESSE MCCARTNEY LYRICS

Beautiful Soul


[Intro:]
I don't want another pretty face
I don't want just anyone to hold
I don't want my love to go to waste
I want you and your beautiful soul

I know that you are something special
To you I'd be always faithful
I want to be what you always needed
Then I hope you'll see the heart in me

[Chorus:]
I don't want another pretty face
I don't want just anyone to hold
I don't want my love to go to waste
I want you and your beautiful soul
You're the one I wanna chase
You're the one I wanna hold
I wont let another minute go to waste
I want you and your beautiful soul

Your beautiful soul, yeah

You might need time to think it over
But im just fine moving forward
I'll ease your mind
If you give me the chance
I will never make you cry c`mon lets try

[Chorus]

Am I crazy for wanting you
Baby do you think you could want me too
I don't wanna waste your time
Do you see things the way I do
I just wanna know if you feel it too
There is nothing left to hide

[Chorus]

I don't want another pretty face
I don't want just anyone to hold
I don't want my love to go to waste
I want you and your beautiful soul

Your beautiful soul, yeah

2Co 4:8 We are hard pressed on every side, yet not crushed; we are
perplexed, but not in despair; persecuted, but not forsaken; struck down, but
not destroyed, always carrying about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus,
that the life of Jesus also may be manifested in our body.

Ro 5:3 And not only that, but we also glory in tribulations, knowing
that tribulation produces perseverance; and perseverance, character; and
character, hope. Now hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who was given to us.

God you promised...

Ps 31:1 In You, O LORD, I put my trust; Let me never be ashamed; Deliver me in Your righteousness.
2 Bow down Your ear to me, Deliver me speedily; Be my rock of refuge, A fortress of defense to save me.
3 For You are my rock and my fortress; Therefore, for Your name's sake, Lead me and guide me.
4 Pull me out of the net which they have secretly laid for me, For You are my strength.
5 Into Your hand I commit my spirit; You have redeemed me, O LORD God of truth.
6 I have hated those who regard useless idols; But I trust in the LORD.
7 I will be glad and rejoice in Your mercy, For You have considered my trouble; You have known my soul in adversities,
8 And have not shut me up into the hand of the enemy; You have set my feet in a wide place.
9 Have mercy on me, O LORD, for I am in trouble; My eye wastes away with grief, Yes, my soul and my body!
10 For my life is spent with grief, And my years with sighing; My strength fails because of my iniquity, And my bones waste away.
11 I am a reproach among all my enemies, But especially among my neighbors, And am repulsive to my acquaintances; Those who see me outside flee from me.
12 I am forgotten like a dead man, out of mind; I am like a broken vessel.
13 For I hear the slander of many; Fear is on every side; While they take counsel together against me, They scheme to take away my life.
14 But as for me, I trust in You, O LORD; I say, "You are my God."
15 My times are in Your hand; Deliver me from the hand of my enemies, And from those who persecute me.
16 Make Your face shine upon Your servant; Save me for Your mercies' sake.
17 Do not let me be ashamed, O LORD, for I have called upon You; Let the wicked be ashamed; Let them be silent in the grave.
18 Let the lying lips be put to silence, Which speak insolent things proudly and contemptuously against the righteous.
19 Oh, how great is Your goodness, Which You have laid up for those who fear You, Which You have prepared for those who trust in You In the presence of the sons of men!
20 You shall hide them in the secret place of Your presence From the plots of man; You shall keep them secretly in a pavilion From the strife of tongues.
21 Blessed be the LORD, For He has shown me His marvelous kindness in a strong city!
22 For I said in my haste, "I am cut off from before Your eyes"; Nevertheless You heard the voice of my supplications When I cried out to You.
23 Oh, love the LORD, all you His saints! For the LORD preserves the faithful, And fully repays the proud person.
24 Be of good courage, And He shall strengthen your heart, All you who hope in the LORD.

Your word is true God... I don't trust in man & i don't trust in works.. I place my hope in You. You spoke to me in a Psalm & comfirmed it thru a song.. Everyday i sang & i cried.. Father come thru 4 me.. I found my purpose.. & my calling.. Times are bad.. BUT MY GOD IS GOOD! Vengence is MINE says the LORD.. I will repay!

God i'm just a steward.. Steward of this body, in this world. If it's possible, take this cup of suffering away. BUT nevertheless let Your will be done. As i plan my ways.. God direct my paths...

i submit.

YOU ARE MY GOD

CLOSER TO ME
THAN THE AIR THAT I BREATHE
ALL THAT I AM
FORMED BY YOUR WORD
I'M MADE IN YOUR HANDS


CAPTIVATED
BY YOUR BEAUTY
FALLING DEEPER IN YOU


BREATHE INTO MY SOUL
SPIRIT OF GOD
FILL MY LIFE
WITH YOUR PRESENCE
HIDE UNDER YOUR SHADOW
DWELL IN YOUR SECRET PLACE
IT'S YOU I LONG FOR
IT'S YOU I LONG TO KNOW


YOU ARE MY SONG
IN MY DARKEST NIGHT
I WILL SING OF YOUR DAWN
ALL OF MY DAYS
YOU FILL MY LIFE
WITH MERCY AND GRACE

EVERYDAY OF MY LIFE
I WILL WAIT ON YOU
IN YOUR PRESENCE
MY HEART AND STRENGTH RENEW
EVERY MOMENT I LIVE
I WILL WORSHIP YOU
YOU'VE SATURATED MY SOUL
MY HEART FLOWS
RIVERS OF LIVING WATER

Guys... JieTing RouXin.. GaoYuan.. Hui, Bin, Qi, Bill, Dav, Jas, Kyn.. Sarah.. Thanks 4 being there at my lowest low. All the effort & prayer & time, i'll forever be grateful=)

Eph 1:1 To the saints who are in Ephesus(City Harvest), and faithful in Christ Jesus. Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. Amen=)